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Such a clear synthesis of many threads of inquiry. I felt, at the time, that Al Franken's forced resignation (without process) was a very bad sign of what was to come. I wrote a letter to Senator Warren (my then-senator) for explanation, with (of course) no response. My sense, from personal inquiry into my own blind spots, that there was/is a collective tendency to project our own hypocrisies outward: NOBODY is without hypocrisy, but it is very comforting to pin the label on someone else. I see myself complaining (internally and out loud) about inconsistencies and imperfections I perceive in others, even as I paper over my own. "Forgiveness" is a word I usually dislike, in spiritual contexts, probably because it's harder than I think—and mostly because it's hardest to forgive onesself, which is the real basis of all true forgiveness. We are all kind of a mess!

As for the boy crisis, I could not agree more. I know a not-insignificant number sons of very liberal families who voted for Trump, or at least sympathized. It's real.

I have been harboring a fantasy for about a decade now, that we could take a page out of Iceland's playbook and train young men (not only young men, of course - any/all would be welcome!) in the art of rescue to prepare for the many incoming climate crises: "Iceland has demonstrated that it is possible to create a culture in which heroism—even heroism of the tough-guy-archetype—is still possible. As global warming threatens—no, promises—to wreak havoc on our communities with geological trauma that has been commonplace in Iceland for centuries, we are going to need an international squad of highly-trained dedicated rescuers to respond. In Iceland, “The teams have a fetish for vehicles; each seems to have a shiny souped-up fleet. In many cases, it’s the supercharged trucks with the floodlights and monster tires...or the Ski-Doos and Zodiacs, that lure young people to volunteer. They undergo eighteen to twenty-four months of basic training and then do further work in whatever discipline is to become theirs”. We need to harness the misdirected passion of those very youth who, at least in the United States, often look left, at best, at a mind-numbing job and look right towards notoriety and membership of a different sort, and let their pent-up fires steer them increasingly more often toward the latter."

I can say more if anyone's interested.

It was inspired by two articles: This one, about rescuers in Iceland: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/11/09/life-is-rescues

and this one, about how young men were/are groomed for ISIS: “He was a charismatic father figure. It was exciting and there was an energy. I was an activist, never an extremist. For me I always had an inner voice telling me that a lot of this is not right. “But I was angry. I had a very violent dad. I had a lot of racism. I was angry and frustrated. So we planted this virus. And the kids today have caught it. “It’s the same attraction then as it is for young people now. A range of factors that is the same for Muslims and non-Muslims. Young people want to change the world, to feel loved and have a sense of belonging, a sense of attachment. That might just be in a foreign field.” Speaking to the Observer, Karmani said that to tackle the numbers of young people leaving the UK for Syria, Iraq and Libya, it was important that the debate should change to understanding the human elements at play. “It’s not about ideals – 90% of them never subscribe to the ideals – it’s other factors that are a draw. This is the new rock and roll; jihad is sexy. The kid who was not very good-looking now looks good holding a gun. He can get a bride now, he’s powerful. The ISIS gun is as much a penis extension as the stockbroker with his Ferrari. “There is a fundamental disconnect with our young people. Youth work used to be a brilliant vehicle but that’s all gone in the cuts, so who connects with young people now?” “If they have to be repressed about sex, about their friendships, who are they going to talk to? It makes them exposed and vulnerable. We have to stop seeing Muslims as ‘other’. They’re not. See them as the same.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/13/godfather-of-british-jihadists-admits-we-opened-to-way-to-join-isis

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Daniel - thank you for opening up this central conversation. It is central because it is a primal - if not THE primal - driver of life on our planet. But we humans, especially in America, have lost touch with primal mysteries. Sex is a primal mystery. It is sacred. Loss of this awareness has generated tragedy.

Many prior comments include key insights:

- Susan Meeker-Lowry tells us that earth-based cultures have had initiations for males and females to channel sacred energies. Her own personal tragedy gives great weight to her insight.

- Allison Gustavson tells us of Iceland’s intelligent approach to channeling youthful energies into skilled rescue squads. We have much to learn from Iceland.

- Many others have relevant ideas on this huge subject.

Anyone who has ever fallen in love at first sight knows the mystery of spontaneous attraction. If you’re lucky, the attraction is mutual and consensual. If you’re not lucky, tragedy can result. Many exploitive forces have combined to separate boys, girls, men and women from our inherent connection to nature’s mysteries.

As a wise teacher once said - “Corporations are parasites that will ride the back of anything.”

- Schools and teachers were attacked under Reagan and boys were victimized. Corporations saw profits ahead in the 1980s by demonizing boys’ behaviors in elementary schools and marketing Ritalin. Usage increased dramatically in the 1990s and ever since. We used to provide a variety of creative activities, recess and sports in elementary schools that gave boys natural outlets, but funding cuts and privatization made “teach to the test” a prison for boys as well as beleaguered teachers.

- Consider how 4,000%+ increases in young boys being diagnosed with ADHD and drugged into stillness in schools has impacted them as teens and adults? Is it any wonder that the psychosis which Ritalin and other meds can cause may result in violent behaviors? The pharmaceutical industry has suppressed the truth to protect profits over the lives of boys.

- Corporations saw profits ahead in riding the back of feminism, and marketed cigarettes to young women - twice: in 1929 as “torches of freedom”, created by Freud’s nephew Edward Bernays; and in the 1968 Phillip Morris campaign for Virginia Slims ads - “You’ve come a long way, Baby!”. Lung cancer in women increased dramatically from these campaigns. Smokers know it is the hardest addiction to break, and it quells the sex drive in women and men. Corporate control of our libido on many levels.

- Billions made on video games, harnessing boys’ fleeting attention spans for points and fans while killing animated characters - the prequel to being trained for the military and firing drones at faceless living beings.

- Billions more made on pornography, harnessing boys’ and mens’ mysterious feelings into compulsions they cannot stop.

These are only a few of countless examples of corporations harnessing human beings’ natural energies and subverting them. We have been duped to betray our own natures.

Regarding “Me too”, the movement unleashed torrents of rage. That it was rage reveals its primal nature, rooted in a depth of female experience that could not be expressed nor contained by social media. Women need to speak to and listen to other women in sacred ceremonies that allow for pain and horror to be expressed and heard without attack or criticism. And without public, or male, affront at what is spoken by women. That women used social media for such sacred conversations reflects the deterioration of sacred space among women and within American society as a whole. Women’s horror stories that should have been supported by legal action got diluted by other women’s stories of slights. Attempts by women to draw these key distinctions were also attacked.

If everything a man does that makes any woman uncomfortable is “sexist” then language and women’s stories are meaningless. Sacred space and deeper understanding must prevail to help women work through layers of personal trauma, family trauma, and social trauma.

Decades of feminist events have tried but still not found the ways to unite women across racial and class identities.

The fact that identity politics, competition and censure prevailed on social media while ALL American women lost the legal right to control our own bodies, increasing risk of death, says EVERYTHING about how misguided the women’s movement has become. Without achieving and protecting civil rights, we have no rights. Let’s get our heads back on our shoulders and understand we’re fighting corporate greed, not each other.

Just as women must help other women and girls, so men must help other men and boys.

I’m reminded of the misguided attacks from certain feminists in 1990 on Robert Bly for his book “Iron John: a book about Men”. He focused on the archetype of the Wild Man in nature, and led groups in natural settings for men to experience their own archetypal wild man. Men found these retreats very healing.

I recall feeling happy for these men, and I have been a feminist for over 50 years. I was upset that women were attacking Bly for stupid reasons, claiming these “wild man” qualities were the problem. Reactionary women, ignorant of their own “wild women” qualities.

Our only hope is to help young boys and girls to love Nature and love their own nature as sacred, as primary - AND to teach them how to protect themselves against tomfoolery in this superficial society.

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