Hi Daniel - This conversation feels strangely hopeful in a Joannna Macyish way, given that a lot of it was focused on the extremely dire situation we are all experiencing. When I got to this statement of yours (which I see is in bold print), I felt a huge inner "YES!" arising:
"I feel it’s not about finding a way. We’re not going to find a way. Each of us is a resonant point of many morphogenetic fields of possibility. And what we can do is find resonance with those aspects of our society or our community that are revealing those emerging properties of cooperation, compassion, and connection.
That’s what we can do right now. And certainly we can have intellectual conversations around it, and that’s important—that’s part of the unfolding. But I don’t think we’re going to “find a way.” I think the way is going to find us."
I think that coming to the realization that "the way is going to find us" is a big challenge to our habitual way of thinking about our lives, as it feels to our normal consciousness to be a bit too passive, but in practice it can be anything but (passive). In our daily lives we are faced with a continual stream of opportunities to respond to the moment in front of us, and it is generally the case that the only really effective way to respond is spontaneous and unplanned. For some reason, due to our conditioning, this is hard to understand when we think about major collective challenges. If we could truly accept that all we can ever do is meet the moment in front of us, I believe our view of reality would be radically changed. It's hard to explain why I think this, but to me it feels obvious.
Ahriman wants us to see our world (along with ourselves in it) as a dead mechanism where the idea of "freedom" is simply meaningless. I think many are waking up to the understanding that this is a lie. The fact that 100 years ago, Steiner predicted the incarnation of Ahriman also feels hopeful to me, as it suggests that what is happening right now under our noses has an evolutionary purpose, rather than it being some kind of mistake that threatens our evolutionary journey. Its a long journey and we are in a very tricky stage right now, but if we can learn to respond to each moment from our innermost depths of wisdom and love, the possibilities are wonderful.
Yes the idea of "no free will" runs completely counter to many awakening narratives in play currently which seem to offer our last best hope for planetary transformation.
I agree Daniel! Very well articulated! "There’s something new forming: a new tone, timbre, and texture of consciousness. It’s cooperative, collaborative, still finding itself. That’s the future trajectory. Not big and bold—small, quiet, humble. Feminine. The good, archetypal aspects of the nurturing feminine, melding with the best aspects of the masculine, such as will and discipline and systemic thought."
Good interview. Interesting synchronicity: I just attended a lecture given by the Anthroposophical Society of Boston. It was on the subject of AI and transhumanism. The talk basically was a full-on endorsement. I was a bit stunned. Yup that’s right, blank check i.e. this will be good for humanity’s evolution. I found the talk to be very disturbing in that sense. And I wish I detected a little more pushback (and maybe even appropriate visceral horror) where you say: "We might even have genetically-grown bodies with autonomous AIs in them". But maybe that’s just a contextual thing thing that happens in interviews.
Then there’s the connection between Steiner and Nazism. I’m still getting up to speed on this but it seems important to explore: Peter Staudenmaier on Waldorf Critics International has written: "If this peculiar cosmology sounds eerily similar to the teutonic myths of Himmler and Hitler, the resemblance is no accident. Anthroposophy and National Socialism both have deep roots in the confluence of nationalism, right-wing populism, proto-environmentalist romanticism and esoteric spiritualism that characterized much of German and Austrian culture at the end of the nineteenth century. But the connection between Steiner’s racially stratified pseudo-religion and the rise of the Nazis goes beyond mere philosophical parallels. Anthroposophy had a powerful practical influence on the so-called “green wing” of German fascism. Moreover, the actual politics of Steiner and his followers have consistently displayed a profoundly reactionary streak."
Hi Tom - I'm stunned too - re: Anthropops (slang term) endorsing Transhumanism! Was this just one person's opinion, or more of an endorsement from the whole Anthroposohical Society of Boston?
It's hard to know what to make of anything these days, including the allegations regarding Steiner and Nazism. I have read a bit about that and was left feeling more confused than anything. My conclusion was that its important not to adopt beliefs without first digesting the implications and coming to one's own conclusions. Steiner actually said that quite often, though in his lectures he often came across as very know-it-all and opinionated, dogmatic even. If Anthroposophy is taken as as a fixed belief system, then I think it can lead people into all kinds of false positions. I have always thought of it as a path of development that aims to strengthen one's capacity to perceive and think more wholistically, not as a rule book, body of knowledge, or dogma. Yet I find many (not all!) Anthroposophists to be both dogmatic and a bit arrogant - off-putting for me in the long run. Steiner was complex and undoubtedly flawed, as any human is. Certainly Anthroposphy is flavored by the time and place from which it emerged. But that doesn't mean it doesn't offer something of value to our time. That depends on what people do with it.
Hi Lee, the presenter was the president of the Boston Anthroposophical Society. So honestly I have no idea how widespread this notion might be throughout their various groups. Since he is the president there it almost suggests an endorsement. I can tell you than I was the only one in the group of about 25 people who questioned his premises. The atmosphere was quite cultlike and he did not answer any of my questions directly which was also a bit odd. Since then I've been reading up on Steiner (especially his short book on Ahriman) to see if there's a substantive basis for the presenter’s ideas. He came out solidly behind the notion of brain implants and seem to have no problem with the current human reproductive system more or less going away. This of course is a transhumanist goal, i.e. to lab-grow humans, presumably so they can get that nice factory install of the latest AI software. I’ve also picked up Gary Lachman’s book on Steiner for another cross check. I’m definitely down the rabbit hole on this one. Cheers.
Hi Tom - I have read Gary Lachman's book and l thought he did a good job of presenting an overview of Steiner's work. He seems to have studied the material pretty thoroughly, not making a lot of false assumptions. Steiner's published lectures are so vast - how can anyone be up on everything he said? (Maybe AI can.) But anyhow, I don't claim to know everything about Steiner's views, but I've studied quite a bit starting in around 1980, so 45 years, and I can think of nothing that would support the ideas of brain implants or lab grown babies. Anything he said about the future of the human reproductive system was far distant future and l don't think technologically based. But again, I'm not claiming to know it all. What you have shared really sound weird and concerning to me.
I started reading the article but didn't get far before realizing it was on the "Waldorf Critics" webpage. I have first hand experience with the original "Waldorf Critics" group, and in my opinion, they are likely to be the worst possible source of information on the subject of Steiner, Anthroposophy, or Waldorf Education. You might as well consult the KKK about the Civil Rights Movement. I was a teacher at the school which the original group filed an unsuccessful lawsuit against, was myself subjected to the strange experience of being deposed by their unhinged lawyer, who challenged me regarding the supposed occult significance of a blackboard decoration by my 17 year old daughter that featured the sun in the sky overhead. I didn't read far into the essay, but I did read what it had to say about Waldorf Education, and found it to be distorted and inaccurate in many places. There are other, much more well-researched and objective articles on the subject of allegations of Steiner's racism, written not to prove a point but to explore the issue in depth without taking sides.
Lee I’ve started digging in to this article. It’s well-written and seems well documented. If there is a disqualifying embedded ideological warp, I have yet to detect it. And I’m still trying to get my brain wrapped around the idea of "pro-environmental fascism". Statements such as the following two obviously need to be verified: “Anthroposophy had a powerful practical influence on the so-called “green wing” of German fascism.” And: “In the midst of the war’s senseless savagery, Steiner used his military and industrial connections to try to persuade German and Austrian elites of a new social theory of his, which he hoped to see implemented in conquered territories in Eastern Europe.”
Thanks Lee. I'm a great fan of Lachman. And he's so readable. One clue I've come up with so far is Steiner apparently said that Ahriman is all about controlling humanity. Hmm. In any event, here's the bio of the presenter: "Andrew Linnell is a co-founder of MysTech, an Anthroposophical organization seeking to realize Rudolf Steiner's indications on Mechanical Occultism. He serves as president of the Boston branch of the Anthroposophical Society. His days are filled with active involvement in his gardens and in MysTech study groups, the Natural Science Section, and as admin to a number of Anthroposophical Facebook groups. In 2013, he retired from a 42-year career in the computer industry where he had been a CTO and a VP for different companies. "
Can you remember what exactly the brain implants were supposed to accomplish? My daughter has mentioned brain implants as a treatment for depression etc. I told her I thought it sounded creepy, but she said that's because I don't know what it's like to suffer from major depression (she's a psychiatric nurse). She is right about that, but I still thought it sounded creepy. I assume there are different kinds of brain implants for different purposes? I have paid very little attention to this subject, as you can tell.
Hi again Tom - Here's a link to a short essay by Andrew Linnell: https://www.rudolfsteiner.org/fileadmin/user_upload/being_human/bh-articles/technology/bh16-linnell-future-with-machines.pdf On first reading I found his thinking to be incomplete and a bit shallow - almost as if he published it unfinished because he wasn't sure what to do with it. I noticed that he quoted Steiner, but didn't seem to engage with the topic much himself - similar to how people like to quote the Bible without really engaging with the material. I was bothered by the way he used the Steiner quote about eradicating fear, almost as if he thought it meant we had to embrace whatever comes down the pike. I am certain Steiner never meant to suggest that.
I don’t know … this is crazy. As someone who came from that world of tech and dystopia… is hard to come to terms with that vision of humanity and the world .. but here we are. Nice to hear more about your background and story.
The realization that what was once sci-fi by a few nerds is becoming increasingly real. The transhumanist techno-elite aren’t hiding their intentions anymore. It used to be a topic in my circles but everyone would brush off … like “yeah that won’t be happening any time soon” Between Musk’s messiah complex and the EA rationalist spreadsheet ethics, we’re watching a real-time attempt to script the future … and is clear to me that this is not for everyone, but for a select, optimized few.
But what struck me most in this piece is the contrast between “up and out” vs. “down and in.” That’s the fork in the road, isn’t it? One path doubles down on abstraction, optimization, and planetary escape.
Yes good points. Things are moving very quickly now. The transhumanists are making their grand play b/c they're also aware that many are catching on to the game. It's kind of a (Hegelian?) dialectic.
It became clear to me when I saw how they’re funding post-human futures with almost religious discipline. Most people can’t quite understad it yet ... but slowly, the question becomes impossible to ignore: Why do these guys want to colonize Mars, upload consciousness, and own all the compute?
I found this a dense and confusing casserole. To be honest, it made me a bit happier about not having had access to so many ideas during a life more focused on family, relationships, and generally quotidian things. But some effort to reduce the sauce might help a person like me appreciate your dish more, if that's something you're interested in, Daniel.
I was most struck by your sense that we are in a crisis of perspectives which may lead to a more sustainable future or to extinction. I expect both will be the case, as we are already past the point where we might avoid the kind of large-scale disasters already underway in some parts of the world. What I regret most is that so many who appear not to be at cause are being made to suffer. But then again, having birthed a child, I remember clearly how, once the pain of childbirth is over, it's over and can't even be fully recalled. And as for death, who knows but that it might open into worlds where we learn more by assimilation than by a clashing of opposites? I find myself both grief-struck and accepting of what's to come, and not nearly as afraid as I once might have been. I've just completed some extensive testing to rule out cancer, and can report that during the process I experienced both a sense of relief that the rest of my life might be determined by that dreaded disease rather than by having to make a series of even more painful choices as our current systems collapse. I suspect that something like this might well be shared by any of number of people as these are such disorienting times. But I don't have cancer, it turns out and have rejoined the world of the fully alive as willing, if not exactly ready, to participate in the possibilities as things unfold.
As you state, the Earth (and by extrapolation the Cosmos) appears to have robust restorative powers.
So many thoughts and so many webs weaved here and at 2 AM down under I do get a positive flow …for me personally.
As I work with someone on Turtle Island to try to bring Indigenous people together from there to meet in Australia …you give me hope that we aren’t just pissing in the wind or the face of extinction.
That these indigenous ways and knowledge do hold great value for us going forward…
And that even though this is a small project …that has not even coalesced entirely now we allow spirit and energy to move it forward.
It’s not driven by ego or capitalism but by a need to share and learn and enlighten …even if it is just a few because these are the things that …for me …need to be done.
I’d love to share an outline of what myself and Sky Otter are attempting to do and have you cast your big brain and eyes over it…always looking for input and ideas on how to make it a reality…raising funds and involvement…but you are a very busy human.
I thank you for some words here that made ME feel a bit more positive in steps I take …as community -connection-collaboration and love are so important and drive me to try to make the world better…for all…in small ways …
“We’re clearly not wise enough to handle the technological tools we’re unleashing. We just keep creating more existential risks: nuclear, bioweapons, AI. Or as you say, we could end up in techno-fascism, where a small group makes command-and-control decisions, and most of humanity is sacrificed on the altar of transhumanism.” Very nicely stated.
as re dimensions we physically exist in the fourth, but our sentience is in the fifth (circle your head with your hands, did you surround your sentience self?). The sixth through 11 are folded and of no concern.
A lot of stuff today. I'm with the exissentialists.
Hi Daniel - This conversation feels strangely hopeful in a Joannna Macyish way, given that a lot of it was focused on the extremely dire situation we are all experiencing. When I got to this statement of yours (which I see is in bold print), I felt a huge inner "YES!" arising:
"I feel it’s not about finding a way. We’re not going to find a way. Each of us is a resonant point of many morphogenetic fields of possibility. And what we can do is find resonance with those aspects of our society or our community that are revealing those emerging properties of cooperation, compassion, and connection.
That’s what we can do right now. And certainly we can have intellectual conversations around it, and that’s important—that’s part of the unfolding. But I don’t think we’re going to “find a way.” I think the way is going to find us."
I think that coming to the realization that "the way is going to find us" is a big challenge to our habitual way of thinking about our lives, as it feels to our normal consciousness to be a bit too passive, but in practice it can be anything but (passive). In our daily lives we are faced with a continual stream of opportunities to respond to the moment in front of us, and it is generally the case that the only really effective way to respond is spontaneous and unplanned. For some reason, due to our conditioning, this is hard to understand when we think about major collective challenges. If we could truly accept that all we can ever do is meet the moment in front of us, I believe our view of reality would be radically changed. It's hard to explain why I think this, but to me it feels obvious.
Ahriman wants us to see our world (along with ourselves in it) as a dead mechanism where the idea of "freedom" is simply meaningless. I think many are waking up to the understanding that this is a lie. The fact that 100 years ago, Steiner predicted the incarnation of Ahriman also feels hopeful to me, as it suggests that what is happening right now under our noses has an evolutionary purpose, rather than it being some kind of mistake that threatens our evolutionary journey. Its a long journey and we are in a very tricky stage right now, but if we can learn to respond to each moment from our innermost depths of wisdom and love, the possibilities are wonderful.
well said, thank you for your thoughts.
Yes the idea of "no free will" runs completely counter to many awakening narratives in play currently which seem to offer our last best hope for planetary transformation.
I agree Daniel! Very well articulated! "There’s something new forming: a new tone, timbre, and texture of consciousness. It’s cooperative, collaborative, still finding itself. That’s the future trajectory. Not big and bold—small, quiet, humble. Feminine. The good, archetypal aspects of the nurturing feminine, melding with the best aspects of the masculine, such as will and discipline and systemic thought."
Good interview. Interesting synchronicity: I just attended a lecture given by the Anthroposophical Society of Boston. It was on the subject of AI and transhumanism. The talk basically was a full-on endorsement. I was a bit stunned. Yup that’s right, blank check i.e. this will be good for humanity’s evolution. I found the talk to be very disturbing in that sense. And I wish I detected a little more pushback (and maybe even appropriate visceral horror) where you say: "We might even have genetically-grown bodies with autonomous AIs in them". But maybe that’s just a contextual thing thing that happens in interviews.
Then there’s the connection between Steiner and Nazism. I’m still getting up to speed on this but it seems important to explore: Peter Staudenmaier on Waldorf Critics International has written: "If this peculiar cosmology sounds eerily similar to the teutonic myths of Himmler and Hitler, the resemblance is no accident. Anthroposophy and National Socialism both have deep roots in the confluence of nationalism, right-wing populism, proto-environmentalist romanticism and esoteric spiritualism that characterized much of German and Austrian culture at the end of the nineteenth century. But the connection between Steiner’s racially stratified pseudo-religion and the rise of the Nazis goes beyond mere philosophical parallels. Anthroposophy had a powerful practical influence on the so-called “green wing” of German fascism. Moreover, the actual politics of Steiner and his followers have consistently displayed a profoundly reactionary streak."
Hi Tom - I'm stunned too - re: Anthropops (slang term) endorsing Transhumanism! Was this just one person's opinion, or more of an endorsement from the whole Anthroposohical Society of Boston?
It's hard to know what to make of anything these days, including the allegations regarding Steiner and Nazism. I have read a bit about that and was left feeling more confused than anything. My conclusion was that its important not to adopt beliefs without first digesting the implications and coming to one's own conclusions. Steiner actually said that quite often, though in his lectures he often came across as very know-it-all and opinionated, dogmatic even. If Anthroposophy is taken as as a fixed belief system, then I think it can lead people into all kinds of false positions. I have always thought of it as a path of development that aims to strengthen one's capacity to perceive and think more wholistically, not as a rule book, body of knowledge, or dogma. Yet I find many (not all!) Anthroposophists to be both dogmatic and a bit arrogant - off-putting for me in the long run. Steiner was complex and undoubtedly flawed, as any human is. Certainly Anthroposphy is flavored by the time and place from which it emerged. But that doesn't mean it doesn't offer something of value to our time. That depends on what people do with it.
Hi Lee, the presenter was the president of the Boston Anthroposophical Society. So honestly I have no idea how widespread this notion might be throughout their various groups. Since he is the president there it almost suggests an endorsement. I can tell you than I was the only one in the group of about 25 people who questioned his premises. The atmosphere was quite cultlike and he did not answer any of my questions directly which was also a bit odd. Since then I've been reading up on Steiner (especially his short book on Ahriman) to see if there's a substantive basis for the presenter’s ideas. He came out solidly behind the notion of brain implants and seem to have no problem with the current human reproductive system more or less going away. This of course is a transhumanist goal, i.e. to lab-grow humans, presumably so they can get that nice factory install of the latest AI software. I’ve also picked up Gary Lachman’s book on Steiner for another cross check. I’m definitely down the rabbit hole on this one. Cheers.
Tibetan Buddhists have expressed curious support for this also.
Do you have a link for this you can share?
Hi Tom - I have read Gary Lachman's book and l thought he did a good job of presenting an overview of Steiner's work. He seems to have studied the material pretty thoroughly, not making a lot of false assumptions. Steiner's published lectures are so vast - how can anyone be up on everything he said? (Maybe AI can.) But anyhow, I don't claim to know everything about Steiner's views, but I've studied quite a bit starting in around 1980, so 45 years, and I can think of nothing that would support the ideas of brain implants or lab grown babies. Anything he said about the future of the human reproductive system was far distant future and l don't think technologically based. But again, I'm not claiming to know it all. What you have shared really sound weird and concerning to me.
PS Here's a link to the quote I posted earlier (with the caveat that I have not yet read most of this): https://waldorfcritics.org/anthroposophy-and-ecofascism/
I started reading the article but didn't get far before realizing it was on the "Waldorf Critics" webpage. I have first hand experience with the original "Waldorf Critics" group, and in my opinion, they are likely to be the worst possible source of information on the subject of Steiner, Anthroposophy, or Waldorf Education. You might as well consult the KKK about the Civil Rights Movement. I was a teacher at the school which the original group filed an unsuccessful lawsuit against, was myself subjected to the strange experience of being deposed by their unhinged lawyer, who challenged me regarding the supposed occult significance of a blackboard decoration by my 17 year old daughter that featured the sun in the sky overhead. I didn't read far into the essay, but I did read what it had to say about Waldorf Education, and found it to be distorted and inaccurate in many places. There are other, much more well-researched and objective articles on the subject of allegations of Steiner's racism, written not to prove a point but to explore the issue in depth without taking sides.
Whoa. Interesting story and good to know. To clarify, I wasn't offering it as a valid source but only as an item of interest.
Lee I’ve started digging in to this article. It’s well-written and seems well documented. If there is a disqualifying embedded ideological warp, I have yet to detect it. And I’m still trying to get my brain wrapped around the idea of "pro-environmental fascism". Statements such as the following two obviously need to be verified: “Anthroposophy had a powerful practical influence on the so-called “green wing” of German fascism.” And: “In the midst of the war’s senseless savagery, Steiner used his military and industrial connections to try to persuade German and Austrian elites of a new social theory of his, which he hoped to see implemented in conquered territories in Eastern Europe.”
Thanks Lee. I'm a great fan of Lachman. And he's so readable. One clue I've come up with so far is Steiner apparently said that Ahriman is all about controlling humanity. Hmm. In any event, here's the bio of the presenter: "Andrew Linnell is a co-founder of MysTech, an Anthroposophical organization seeking to realize Rudolf Steiner's indications on Mechanical Occultism. He serves as president of the Boston branch of the Anthroposophical Society. His days are filled with active involvement in his gardens and in MysTech study groups, the Natural Science Section, and as admin to a number of Anthroposophical Facebook groups. In 2013, he retired from a 42-year career in the computer industry where he had been a CTO and a VP for different companies. "
Can you remember what exactly the brain implants were supposed to accomplish? My daughter has mentioned brain implants as a treatment for depression etc. I told her I thought it sounded creepy, but she said that's because I don't know what it's like to suffer from major depression (she's a psychiatric nurse). She is right about that, but I still thought it sounded creepy. I assume there are different kinds of brain implants for different purposes? I have paid very little attention to this subject, as you can tell.
This is more about wearables and super-soldiers but sets the stage:
DARPA Funds Ambitious Brain-Machine Interface Program
https://spectrum.ieee.org/darpa-funds-ambitious-neurotech-program
One more than provides some context:
https://theconversation.com/transhumanism-billionaires-want-to-use-tech-to-enhance-our-abilities-the-outcomes-could-change-what-it-means-to-be-human-220549
Hi again Tom - Here's a link to a short essay by Andrew Linnell: https://www.rudolfsteiner.org/fileadmin/user_upload/being_human/bh-articles/technology/bh16-linnell-future-with-machines.pdf On first reading I found his thinking to be incomplete and a bit shallow - almost as if he published it unfinished because he wasn't sure what to do with it. I noticed that he quoted Steiner, but didn't seem to engage with the topic much himself - similar to how people like to quote the Bible without really engaging with the material. I was bothered by the way he used the Steiner quote about eradicating fear, almost as if he thought it meant we had to embrace whatever comes down the pike. I am certain Steiner never meant to suggest that.
Thanks Lee. Good find. I look forward to reading it.
I don’t know … this is crazy. As someone who came from that world of tech and dystopia… is hard to come to terms with that vision of humanity and the world .. but here we are. Nice to hear more about your background and story.
what is crazy about it?!
The realization that what was once sci-fi by a few nerds is becoming increasingly real. The transhumanist techno-elite aren’t hiding their intentions anymore. It used to be a topic in my circles but everyone would brush off … like “yeah that won’t be happening any time soon” Between Musk’s messiah complex and the EA rationalist spreadsheet ethics, we’re watching a real-time attempt to script the future … and is clear to me that this is not for everyone, but for a select, optimized few.
But what struck me most in this piece is the contrast between “up and out” vs. “down and in.” That’s the fork in the road, isn’t it? One path doubles down on abstraction, optimization, and planetary escape.
Yes good points. Things are moving very quickly now. The transhumanists are making their grand play b/c they're also aware that many are catching on to the game. It's kind of a (Hegelian?) dialectic.
It became clear to me when I saw how they’re funding post-human futures with almost religious discipline. Most people can’t quite understad it yet ... but slowly, the question becomes impossible to ignore: Why do these guys want to colonize Mars, upload consciousness, and own all the compute?
I found this a dense and confusing casserole. To be honest, it made me a bit happier about not having had access to so many ideas during a life more focused on family, relationships, and generally quotidian things. But some effort to reduce the sauce might help a person like me appreciate your dish more, if that's something you're interested in, Daniel.
I was most struck by your sense that we are in a crisis of perspectives which may lead to a more sustainable future or to extinction. I expect both will be the case, as we are already past the point where we might avoid the kind of large-scale disasters already underway in some parts of the world. What I regret most is that so many who appear not to be at cause are being made to suffer. But then again, having birthed a child, I remember clearly how, once the pain of childbirth is over, it's over and can't even be fully recalled. And as for death, who knows but that it might open into worlds where we learn more by assimilation than by a clashing of opposites? I find myself both grief-struck and accepting of what's to come, and not nearly as afraid as I once might have been. I've just completed some extensive testing to rule out cancer, and can report that during the process I experienced both a sense of relief that the rest of my life might be determined by that dreaded disease rather than by having to make a series of even more painful choices as our current systems collapse. I suspect that something like this might well be shared by any of number of people as these are such disorienting times. But I don't have cancer, it turns out and have rejoined the world of the fully alive as willing, if not exactly ready, to participate in the possibilities as things unfold.
As you state, the Earth (and by extrapolation the Cosmos) appears to have robust restorative powers.
So many thoughts and so many webs weaved here and at 2 AM down under I do get a positive flow …for me personally.
As I work with someone on Turtle Island to try to bring Indigenous people together from there to meet in Australia …you give me hope that we aren’t just pissing in the wind or the face of extinction.
That these indigenous ways and knowledge do hold great value for us going forward…
And that even though this is a small project …that has not even coalesced entirely now we allow spirit and energy to move it forward.
It’s not driven by ego or capitalism but by a need to share and learn and enlighten …even if it is just a few because these are the things that …for me …need to be done.
I’d love to share an outline of what myself and Sky Otter are attempting to do and have you cast your big brain and eyes over it…always looking for input and ideas on how to make it a reality…raising funds and involvement…but you are a very busy human.
I thank you for some words here that made ME feel a bit more positive in steps I take …as community -connection-collaboration and love are so important and drive me to try to make the world better…for all…in small ways …
Thanks 🙏
“We’re clearly not wise enough to handle the technological tools we’re unleashing. We just keep creating more existential risks: nuclear, bioweapons, AI. Or as you say, we could end up in techno-fascism, where a small group makes command-and-control decisions, and most of humanity is sacrificed on the altar of transhumanism.” Very nicely stated.
Please find some references which are very much about the themes pointed to in this interview/
http://beezone.com/current/stresschemistry.html
http://beezone.com/current/sciencemysticismlove.html
http://beezone.com/current/truereligionevolutionhumanexistence.html
http://beezone.com/current/structureevolutiondestinyman.html
http://beezone.com/current/fiveevolutionarystatesoftrueman.html
as re dimensions we physically exist in the fourth, but our sentience is in the fifth (circle your head with your hands, did you surround your sentience self?). The sixth through 11 are folded and of no concern.
A lot of stuff today. I'm with the exissentialists.
Just because he's no longer a "leftist" Russell Brand is not a monster, he's actually very sweet and thoughtful, not always right, but well meaning.
i definitely do not find him "well meaning." He is supporting Putin, Trump, etc. He has lost his mind.