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Julianne's avatar

Daniel dear - I could opine in many directions - some in agreement with you and some in disagreement- but I shall choose to state what I believe is the deepest core of our “problem”: we Americans are utterly alienated from Earth. Neither most women nor most men have any close relationship to Nature - hence, the gender distortions, neuroses, personality disorders and numerous other problems exhibited reflect this tragedy. In my view, it is THE tragedy, and all other explanations are shallow. The word “human” is derived from humus = EARTH. I beg you to please consider this fact more and Freudian psychology less.

More time spent grounding ourselves in Nature and the wondrous beauty of the natural world would help heal a ton of problems. Thank you for listening and for exploring our human dilemmas.

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Jeremy Rothenberg's avatar

Heady stuff. My first thought is to question the conspiracy you describe to create a population that is "young, uneducated, defenseless, and hence incapable of resistance. Women will become mothers when young, making it impossible for them to develop political consciousness."

I just don't think that people are that smart or can actually plan something so softly diabolical. I continue to agree that the real fear is that "nobody is in control," as Terrance McKenna used to say.

I'm much more bent towards unconscious, possibly evolutionary, mythological, archetypal forces swirling our world into the Kali Yuga or whatever the f*k is going on. It's useful and intellectually satisfying to try to understand it and theorize about it. So very masculine, as you say.

That brings me to the feminine thing. I think there's a really interesting point that you are making.

"Pandey argues that women’s conversational norms tend to be structured around emotional safety, relational cohesion, and status preservation. Unfortunately, this comes at the expense of intellectual rigor and truth-seeking."

I already stated my point on truth-seeking. Folly. But I'm sure this is true to some extent. But in no way does this sound like it's our problem. Much to the opposite. If we, the masculine dominant, could come to see that relational, supportive, and collaborative strategies were ultimately healthier and longer lasting than competitive ones, maybe that's all we need as a species.

There's no fault in the Tao. Yin and Yang are just the forces of duality that build and devour one another. We're all playing out something beyond our understanding.

If we have any agency at all, it's to withdraw our attention from the competitive drive that has built our economies. The pull towards bloody conflict and technologically shiny objects.

What if we invested our attention into collaboration, relational cohesion, and mutually supportive economic strategies?

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