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Definitely have had these same thoughts regarding Operation Paperclip, leading to the wondering if it was a or a collaboration with these eugenicist practices. I got a lot out of the framing of Gurdjieff's idea of the 'Law of Octaves' to the present situation, in which he pointed out the solution for continuing in the direction we headed in after 9-11, that some perfectly timed and intentional "shocks from the outside". Thank you for speaking it, Daniel.

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Hi Daniel, maybe do a little more research into Steiner. I learned biodynamic farming and Waldorf education and studied him for years. Unfortunately, Mr. Steiner was a total racist. He believed that darker skinned humans were less able to evolve spiritually without the help of the nordic peoples. Also, he said that the reasons Native Americans were dying out was because they were less evolved. Pretty freaking rank if you ask me. Steiner is a no go.

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Yes I agree Steiner had some bad ideas that conformed with the prejudices of his time. He also had many amazing ideas and accomplishments such as the ones you mentioned. I don’t believe In cancel culture. Nobody is perfect

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of course no body is perfect (except each of us!) and it is unnecessary to assume any I am out to cancel any culture (for fucks sake I live with teens if you wanna talk about CC). As I before shared, I studied and practiced for a number of years at centers and the like and came away saddened by the twisting of ideas and then disheartened to find how deeply rooted his "othering" was which I find caste making. But you say tomato.... Steiner thought he channelled information, not from his own heart or mind but from another source. My experiences, especially psychedelic, have taught me that the master I need most is Nature and me. ya dig?

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I loved the original ideas of Waldorf. It was started for factory workers' children and now is very high end private school (or in my state, anyway), is very exclusionary and many of the adults act like its a cult. A friend who was choosing to send her child to Waldorf said the other parents told her, "you're one of us now". Rich white people can be VERY weird! LOL. Im glad you had a good learning experience.

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I loved the original ideas of Waldorf. It was started for factory workers' children and now is very high end private school (or in my state, anyway), is very exclusionary and many of the adults act like its a cult. A friend who was choosing to send her child to Waldorf said the other parents told her, "you're one of us now". Rich white people can be VERY weird! LOL. Im glad you had a good learning experience.

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That is a fair point. I still find his ideas on many topics to be amazing.

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True... the whole scope of individual timelines are important to consider too, and I bet someone has looked into this, but might be good to remember that some of the deepest explorers make their mistakes loudly and learn loudly in one lifetime, and that great change and diversity are possible with a single lifetime.

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exactly!!!

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